von MS: zensierte Byte This Ausgabe (kommt nachher noch in den anderen Thread rein)
Hier die URL's zu der unzensierten und zensierten Fassung:
wmsvod.wwe.com/bytethis/200509/28bytethis300.wmv
wmsvod.wwe.com/bytethis/200509/28bytethisedit300.wmv zensiert
Triple H, The Rock, Taboo Tuesday 2005 News von MS
Steve Corino in Deutschland von MS:
Hassan News von MS:
Die gestrige Ausgabe der WWE Internettalkshow "Byte This!" hat heute in der Wrestlingwelt für großes Aufsehen gesorgt. Nachdem Moderator Todd Grisham in der letzten Woche eine "offene" Einladung an den Ultimate Warrior ausgesprochen hatte um sich telefonisch zu den gegen ihn erhobenen Vorwürfen auf der DVD "The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" zu äußern, gab es gestern eine ungewöhnliche Fortsetzung dieser Geschichte. Nachdem der Warrior am Dienstag in einer Kolumne auf seiner Website das Angebot für ein Interview abgelehnt und Moderator Grisham als "Schwuchtel" sowie Gastkommentator Darren Drozdov als "Krüppel" verumglimpft hatte, konterte die Byte This!-Crew mit einer großen Persiflage.
In der Show trat Undercarder Matt Striker in einem Warrior-Kostüm auf um sich für 10 Minuten mit Grunzlauten über die bekannten Schwächen des Ex-WWE Champions lustig zu machen. Dabei las er Orginalpassagen der Stellungnahme vom vergangenen Dienstag vor um so Grisham und Droz die Möglichkeit zu geben auf die Beleidigungen zu reagieren. Während Grisham den Angriff auf seine angebliche Homosexualität mit einem Witz konterte, wurde er ernster als es um die Querschnittslähmung von Droz ging. Hier zog er für sich das Fazit:
" I would rather be physical handicapped than mentally handicapped!"
['Ich wäre lieber physisch gehandicapt als geistig!']
Droz schloss die Angelegenheit mit einem:
"It is coming from a small mind from a small person!"
['Es kommt von einem Kleingeist einer kleinen Person/Persönlichkeit!']
Die unverschämte Parodie des Warriors durch Matt Striker, der in seiner "ultimativen" Rolle sichtlich Spaß hatte und ständig nach Steroiden fragte sowie Geld für die DVD haben wollte, ging dann einigen WWE Offiziellen im Verlaufe des Tages offenbar zu weit. Nach wenigen Stunden wurde die "Byte This!"-Ausgabe von der Homepage genommen und erst nach mehreren Stunden durch eine zensierte Fassung wieder ersetzt. In einer Presseerklärung auf wwe.com nahm Moderator Todd Grisham die Verantwortung für die Persiflage auf sich und erklärte ohne das Einverständnis der Producer der Show gehandelt zu haben. Hier der Orginaltext:
"Last night on “Byte This!,” what was intended to be a light-hearted parody on the Ultimate Warrior’s official statement regarding his refusal to appear on the show may have gone a little overboard. Todd Grisham and Matt Striker went into a direction that was not the original intent of the producers of “Byte This!” or WWE.
This morning, Grisham said , “I think we both got caught up in the moment. I guess I was still hot about Warrior referring to Droz as a cripple and me as “queer,” but that’s still no excuse. Matt and I went into business for ourselves.”
“We were having fun with it,” Striker added. “I’m actually a big fan. There was no script, except the verbiage that was his.”
Watch this edited version of “Byte This!” that better reflects the original intention of the skit.
[' Letzte Nacht bei bei Byte This!, bei der es eine leichtfüßige Parodie auf die offizielle Stellungnahme des Ultimate Warriors geben sollte, ist man eventuell etwas über das Ziel hinausgeschossen. Todd Grisham und Matt Striker schlugen eine Richtung ein, die nicht den ursprünglichen Intentionen der Producer von 'Byte This! oder der WWE entsprach.
Grisham sagte dazu heute morgen: 'Ich denke wir waren Gefangene des Augenblicks. Ich vermute, dass ich immer noch wütend auf den Warrior wegen seiner Kommentare gegen Droz und mich war, aber das ist keine Entschuldigung. Matt und ich sind für uns selbst unterwegs gewesen.'
Striker fügte hinzu: ' Wir hatten Spaß damit. Eigentlich bin ich ein riesengroßer Fan. Es gab kein Skript außer der Orginalpassagen aus seiner Stellungnahme.
Schauen Sie sich die editierte Version von 'Byte This!' an, die den ursprünglichen Absichten für diese Persiflage besser entspricht.']
Zensiert bzw. rausgeschnitten wurden am Ende ca. zwei Minuten, bei der Striker als Warrior imner zu nach "Pferde Steroiden" fragte und Todd Grisham geldgierig im Stile eines Preistreibers über 50 Dollar für die Rückgabe der DVD abnehmen wollte. Zum Abschluss seiner Parodie brach Striker zudem weinend als Warrior zusammen, weil er "keinen Erfolg mehr habe" und irgendwo in einem "Trailer" in New York wohnen müsste. Auch diese Szene fehlt nun in der editierten Version der Show. Offenbar hatte die WWE Rechtsabteilung Angst vor einer Klage bekommen.
Quelle: wwe.com
Hier die URL's zu der unzensierten und zensierten Fassung:
wmsvod.wwe.com/bytethis/200509/28bytethis300.wmv
wmsvod.wwe.com/bytethis/200509/28bytethisedit300.wmv zensiert
Triple H, The Rock, Taboo Tuesday 2005 News von MS
In letzter Zeit gab es vermehrt Gerüchte über eine mögliche Rückkehr von The Rock Dwayne Johnson. Es wurde spekuliert, dass er schon bei WrestleMania 22 wieder aktiv in den Ring steigen wird. The Rock selbst dementiert diese Gerücht allerdings. Als er über einen möglichen Auftritt befragt wurde meinte Rocky, dass er das Wrestling zwar liebe, aber ein Match nicht in Frage komme. Einen normalen Auftritt schloss der ehemalige WWE Champion allerdings nicht aus. Er liebe die Fans und die Liveauftritte, aber er habe sich nun mal für die Schauspielerei entschieden. Daher werde es keine aktive Rückkehr mehr zum Wrestling geben. Er wolle in seinem Leben einen weiteren Schritt machen und deshalb müsse er auf das eine leider verzichten.
Der 10-fache WWE Champion Triple H hat bei einigen Fans einen schweren Stand, vor allem bei den Internet-Fans. Viele können ihn nicht leiden, da er sehr arrogant und egoistisch rüberkommt. Doch selbst Triple H-Fans geben zu, das Hunter ein sehr großes Problem mit seinem Ego zu haben scheint. Ein WWE Mitarbeiter wird wie folgt zitiert: "He thinks the best WrestleMania Main Event ever would be Triple H vs. Triple H. The only issue would be who would win." ("Er denkt, dass der beste WrestleMania Main Event aller Zeiten ein Match zwischen Triple H und Triple H wäre. Einziges Problem: Wer gewinnt?").
Nicht nur auf dem aktuellen Taboo Tuesday Promoposter wird mit einem Match zwischen WWE Champion John Cena vs. Kurt Angle geworben, sondern auch in diversen Werbespots wurde dieses Match schon angekündigt. Dies würde wohl auch bedeuten, das Kurt Angle am kommenden Montag bei RAW Homecoming das Iron Man Match gegen Shawn Michaels gewinnt, welches ja bekanntlich ein No. 1 Contender Match werden wird. In dem besagten Werbespot wird neben dem WWE Championship Match auch mit dem Match zwischen Triple H vs. Ric Flair geworben. Die Pläne für das Match gab es bereits schon im Sommer, wurde aber aufgrund der Auszeit von Triple H etwas verschoben. Nach seiner Rückkehr soll die Fehde der beiden nun endlich umgesetzt werden.
(Quelle: PWInsider.com, PWTorch.com & LoP.net)
Steve Corino in Deutschland von MS:
German Stampede Wrestling bringt am 5. November 2005 den ehemaligen ECW World Champion Steve Corino zurück nach Deutschland. Der "King of Old School" wird beim Event Battlefield in Lennestadt (Nordrhein Westfalen) zum ersten Mal seit International Impact wieder in einen deutschen Ring steigen. Der Event findet in der Sauerlandhalle Lennestadt statt und bringt neben Corino viele weitere Mega-Stars, die im Moment Mann für Mann angekündigt werden.
Ein großes Highlight des Events ist vor allem das Battlefield Match, eine 20 Men Battle Royal im Royal Rumble Style, dessen Sieger bei International Impact III auf den amtierenden Champion treffen wird. Das Match soll nach aktuellen Auskünften hochkarätig besetzt sein und einen Höhepunkt im deutschen Wrestling-Jahr bieten.
Konkrete Matches stehen leider noch nicht fest, doch MOONSAULT.de wird Euch umgehend informieren, sobald Ankündigungen erfolgt sind. Bisher für den Event bestätigt wurden (neben Steve Corino): World Heavyweight Champion Michael Kovac, "The Anarchist" Doug Williams, Eric Schwarz (der vor einigen Wochen noch bei WWE Heat zu sehen war), Joe E. Legend (ehemaliger Tag Team Partner von Christian, war 2000/2001 als Just Joe in der WWE zu sehen), GSW Breakhrough Champion Absolute Andy und viele mehr!
Tickets sind seit ca. zwei Wochen im Vorverkauf erhältlich.
[Quelle: gsw-wrestling.de]
Hassan News von MS:
Gestern gab sich bei der CNBC Talkshow "The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch" die Belle Etage der WWE die Ehre. Vince und Linda McMahon, Hulk Hogan und Steve Austin plauderten ausführlich über die derzeitige Lage der Company und ihre Zukunftspläne. Für die Zuschauer gab es dabei einige interessante Erkenntnisse:
Hulk Hogan forderte erneut (indirekt) Steve Austin zu einem Match heraus, Vince McMahon regete sich fürchterlich über die Zensoren bei Spike TV auf und gab zudem eine interessante Einschätzung zum Muhammad Hassan-Charakter preis: Der Verantwortung für sein Scheitern liege in erster Linie bei Hassan-Darsteller Mark Copani. [Dieser hatte dem Wrestling Observer zufolge in seinen letzten WWE-Monaten mehrfach Vorschläge des Kreativteams abgeblockt, die den 'Hassan'-Charakter noch 'extremer' als Terroristen-Kopie im Programm platziert hätten. Copani hielt diese für zu 'grenzwertig'. Lionheart]
Interessant auch McMahons Ankündigung, dass man auf dem USA Network künfitg wieder den "envelop pushen" wolle, d.h. zu kontroverseren Storylines zurückkehren möchte.
Hier die Zusammenfassung von Dave Scherer, PWInsider.com:
Zitat:
Vince and Linda McMahon, Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin were the guests on CNBC's "The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch" last night. The whole idea of their appearances was to plug Monday's move to USA. Deutsch referred to it a few times as "rasslin'", which no doubt made Vince's day.
The first guest on the show was Hulk Hogan, who appeared via satellite. Deutsch said that the recent episode of his show where he had Hogan and his family on to push "Hogan Knows Best" was one of their best and highest rated programs. Hogan said that his show works because they are “normal and real”. He acted as if none of it was scripted and that they were just normal people in regular everyday situations. OK Hulkster, whatever you say.
Deutsch asked what made Hogan come back to wrestling at 52. Hogan said that Vince McMahon called him and they were going to "re-launch the brand", since Hogan was older and had knee and hip replacement. The idea was that his competing days were done, so they were going to take his character in a new direction. He said that from there he found out his brand was still strong and that his body could hold up to wrestling, so he came back.
When asked what has made Hulk so popular, he said it's because he was a good wholesome character that people identified with, a hero. He said that he thought we were past needing that kind of guy, then 9/11 happened and with hatred everywhere, the character still works. Donny said that his character is about hope and All-American ideals. Hogan said that in WCW, he turned heel because that is what the fans wanted at the time, but they "got sick of the negativity" and it's come full circle today.
Deutsch said that wrestling is a diversion business and with all the bad stuff going on in the world, wondered if they take that into account when booking. Hogan said that they do, but you also have to take into account what is going on in the world as well. Deutsch asked Hogan to defend wrestling against all of the complaints people can make about it (violent, anti-female, etc.). He said it's been around for a long time and it's best asset is that in the end, it's about good over evil. Hogan also talked about the job of athletes and entertainers as being 24-7 and are the property of the public. He said people need to take that responsibility seriously and give back to the fans.
They came back from break airing the "We're moving" WWE commercial. Deutsch promoted the move back to USA. In studio, they were joined by Vince and Linda McMahon. Hulk and Vince joked that their wives are the real bosses of their families. Deutsch asked about their past creative differences and what brought them back together and Vince said that it made sense for business and the "fact that we should be together. We should never be apart. Ever." Deutsch talked about how the arrival of Hogan's character in 1984 started the big boom. He asked what made it work back then. Hulk put over Vince as being the guy who laid out the blueprint and it took the two of them to make it successful. He said he has been successful working with others, but never as much so as he was with the McMahons. Deutsch asked about how the creative process worked with Hulk and Vince put over Hogan saying that he brought more to the table than he was taking credit for. He said he helped, but the performer is who gets it done and that Hogan has done it for years. It was a serious lovefest.
Deutsch asked Hulk to compare working for Vince and his father. Hulk said that when both men told you something, you could take it to the bank. Bret Hart would no doubt disagree with that. He said that the differences are that dad was more restrained in how he promoted compared to his son. He said that if dad were still alive, son probably wouldn't have been able to do some of the things he has done, but Hulk is on son's team. He likes the way the son takes things to the edge. Hogan mentioned how Vince always gave him the right guidance. He said sometimes he didn't listen and mentioned going on the Arsenio Hall show (where he was asked about steroid use). He said Vince told him not to go on but he was "hell bent" on doing it and it was probably the worst mistake he ever made. He said that when he went on the show, he wanted to take a "diversionary cute tactic and it blew up in my face". He said that Vince wanted to play it straighter (and that means don't work people about it). He asked Hulk if there was ever a time when he had a good idea and Vince wouldn't do it. Once again, he put over Vince and said he could tell us a time when he was dead wrong and Vince was right. He talked about bringing in Mark Calaway and Vince said he was going to be the Undertaker and Hogan said it would never work. He was wrong.
He asked Hogan his favorite wrestlers of all time. He said Andre The Giant first, then Billy Graham and then Jimmy Snuka because he had what Hulk wanted. Vince said Dr. Jerry Graham was his all-time favorite. He talked about riding around in a red Cadillac in 1959 riding around with Graham, saying it was the most wonderful thing in the world.
Deutsch then asked Vince to tell a story to embarrass Hogan. Vince said that he has good stories on the Hulkster and Hogan responded that he had some on Vinnie Mac as well. They kept it easy and talked about Hogan wearing a helmet with a fist on it in the ring, which bombed. Hogan talked about how the first time they went to the NAPTE convention, they weren't invited but crashed it anyway. He said that someone was giving Hogan static for being there and Vince jumped in and almost beat the guy up. Deutsch asked about working with his own family now on his series and Hogan said that the more they learn about TV, the harder they have gotten to work with. He said going to wrestling is a day off, despite working 16 hours, compared to being home.
Deutsch asked the Macs if it ever gets to be too much to talk about wrestling at home. Linda says usually not, but with the internet Vince is always checking his email. (He's probably reading website too!). Hogan then said he learned a lot from Vince McMahon about how to successfully run a business. He then asked when Vince would hop back in the ring again with Hogan. Vince said tune in Monday because you never know. Deutsch said to Vince that he was just called out and Vinnie said he had to go back to the gym. Deutsch asked Hogan about calling out Steve Austin for a match and he said, "That's one that needs to go down". He said people thought they would never see it but now that Hogan's back, it's something that should happen. They went to break and Deutsch said Hogan was leaving but would be back tomorrow night. Then on a break, they said that Jesse Ventura would be on tonight as well.
They showed a clip of Steph and HHH on this show in February where Steph said the times are calling for them to be more conservative in their storylines and Vince was behind doing that. Deustch asked him about it and he said "That was then". He said that everything is subject to change. He said he thinks they will open up the envelope on Monday at Raw on USA. Talk turned to being on Spike. They ran a clip of Vince being censored on the last Spike Raw. Vince said, "It's called censorship". He said Spike never said a word to them about what they could or couldn't say. He said he loathes censorship and is a big mouth. Vince then actually then complained that Spike blocked out signs in the crowd saying that WWE was going to USA and he didn't like that. Wow, given how they pull signs at shows, that is an amazing statement. I guess when he says he hates censorship, what he really means is he hates being censored. For the record, I have no problem with WWE censoring signs at their show, just as I don't have a problem with Spike censoring what airs on their network. Vince should be consistent on this issue.
Linda was asked about how women are portrayed and she said they are strong and tastefully done. Talk turned to Muhammad Hassan, and this one was a doozy. Vince said that they have the ability to go anywhere and do what they want with characters. He then said, "Really, the reason this character didn't work for us is because of the individual playing the character, more or less." That was the problem. Yep, it was all Mark Copani's fault. It wasn't how it was booked. Nope, it was all Copani. Jeez, that has to be the stupidest thing he has ever said. Whether you liked the character or not, Copani played it as well as it could have been played.
Linda was asked about the overall business. She said that ratings have been steady and even on a bit of an uptick. I guess she hasn't looked at the recent Smackdown and Raw numbers, and certainly Deutsch didn't because he didn't correct her. She said that they are seeing a "trend up in all of our business units". Uh, OK, if you say so. Please explain how your advertising business will be going up now that you don't sell your cable advertising any more Linda. Deutsch said Forbes has Vince's net worth at $700 million and he said he doesn't pay any attention to that. He's not driven by money. It's fun, but it's not just about that. That was it for the McMahons.
After commercial, Steve Austin joined the show, in studio. Austin said wrestling is the greatest job he ever had. If people don't like it, he doesn't care. Deutsch said people don't realize that they are on the road 250 days a year. Austin says it's a grind. They don't travel in tour buses. He said when you sign up, you are only off the road when you are hurt, and then you aren't making any money. He said you do it week in, week out. He said you get addicted to it and it's a great job.
Austin was asked why his character got over. He said he was brought in to have good matches, be a mechanic. He said that The Ringmaster name wouldn't get anyone excited, so he came up with the Stone Cold character. He said it got over. He said he believed in all of the things he did in the ring, that they were fun and real and that is why people got into it. He said it's real entertainment. He was asked about basing the character about the "I don't care" attitude of serial killers. He mentioned that his attitude started after getting released by WCW while he was hurt. He said he watched a special on a serial killer named the Iceman. He doesn't endorse the guy, but he was playing a heel and took some of the attitude he saw in the guy and put it in his character. He said "someone" in his house came up with the Stone Cold name over a cup of hot tea (it was his ex-wife Jeannie).
They talked about doing "The Longest Yard". He said he had a ball doing it, even though the critics didn't like it. He said it's about drawing money at the box office, and they did. He was asked if he ever has a problem celebrating violence to kids. He said for the most part, he's a good role model for kids. By that he meant it in a "kid from a small town made good" kind of way. He said that wrestling isn't about violence, though it's in the show. He said it's about good guys and bad guys, and titles. He said "sometimes violence is a means to an end".
Talk turned to the WWE movie, "The Condemned" that Austin is working on. He said it's not a wrestling movie. He doesn't know who will distribute it yet. He said Vince's idea is to use WWE characters in other areas. Deutsch compared WWE to Disney. Austin said, "It's a different way to make more money". He said "The Condemned" will start filming in January. He said that he is working on other projects in LA right now. He said going back to USA is a big move for WWE because they understand WWE business.
Dave Scherer@PWInsider.com
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